Response to Athens Dialogues: Democracy and
Politeia; Ober and Monoson
I’d like to thank the Onassis
Foundation for inviting me here to respond on this
panel. I have been asked to comment on Professor
Ober and Professor Monoson’s papers, which I am
very pleased about, because I think that they are
exemplary contributions to the dialogues taking
place here during this program, that very
self-consciously attempt to bridge the ancient and
the modern, and to make certain aspects of
classical Greece relevant to issues of the present
day. Professor Monoson’s paper is an exploration
of the figure of Socrates through the techniques
of classical reception theory, while Professor
Ober’s is an exercise in comparative political
theory, but both papers point to a fruitful way of
approaching the political and ethical concerns of
citizens of contemporary democracies through the
well-known stories and individuals of ancient
Greece, often by interpreting the classics in new
ways and offering up new visions of familiar
material. Two days ago at the opening ceremony it
was asked how much the ancients were applicable to
the moderns. The answer, as I think these papers
show, is, “Very!” For the next few minutes I want
to explain what I think are the most interesting
aspects of the papers and to raise a few questions
about the ideas presented in them.
Professor Ober’s paper, as I said, is a work of
comparative political theory. It starts with
questions that need not have anything to do with
ancient Greece, namely, What exactly is dignity
and what is its role in political life?, but it
answers those questions through the use of a
historical example, democratic Athens, which also
provides a crucial third way of understanding the
scope and meaning of dignity. Basically, that
third way is a notion of “civic dignity,” which
avoids the ethical undesirability of meritocratic
dignity, which is based on a zero-sum conception
of competition for prestige among an elite few,
and improves upon the practical infeasibility of a
universal form of human dignity. In this way
Professor Ober incorporates both ethical concerns
and practical considerations; he navigates between
so-called positive and norm ative political theory,
that is between a description of politics based on
how we think human beings
will act
and a vision of politics based on how we think
human beings
ought to act.
Here I’d like to unpack a bit those practical
concerns that Professor Ober raises, specifically
about universal human dignity. We need to
understand what he thinks the obstacles are to
realizing certain over-ambitious forms of
political action, which in turn help explain why
his notion of civic dignity might arise and why it
might survive where other forms of dignity
founder. Professor Ober’s explanation is that
universal human dignity, while an honorable ideal,
is in a sense too broad to adequately motivate
people to act in defense of others’ dignity. “Responsibility for the defense of human dignity,”
he says, “tends to be highly diffuse.” What this
diffusion entails is a tendency on the part of
individuals to take their dignity for granted;
since everyone has dignity, no one is responsible
for policing and enforcing it, and so people come
to shirk their duties in maintaining the scheme of
dignity. When enough people casually free ride and
assume others are taking care of the problem,
however, the enforcement of dignity collapses. While everyone would be better off with their
dignity being respected, diffuse responsibility
leads people to abdicate their duty out of more
narrow self interests. When Professor Ober says
later in his written paper that civic dignity
resists devolution into a commons tragedy, he
means that it avoids the problem just stated
concerning universal dignity: when dignity is
fully common, no one takes responsibility for it,
and so people acting in their individual
self-interest eventually destroy it out of
ignorance. This picture corresponds to the
well-known parable told by the scientist Garrett
Hardin, of the common field that is slowly but
surely overgrazed by individual shepherds who have
an interest in letting their herds eat more and
more grass. This scenario has come to be known as
the tragedy of the commons.
Civic dignity, on the other hand, has the
capacity to motivate and to mobilize defense, as
Professor Ober says. Unlike universal human
dignity, it is robust, that is, likely to survive,
because it is sustained by “rational
self-interest, well-known and well-respected
rules, and by the habitual behavior developed as a
result of living according to those rules.”
Because political communities, unlike the world
population, have the capacity to punish
individuals and provide incentives to follow the
rules, the enforcement of dignity, once gotten off
the ground, can sustain itself because people have
a more direct interest in seeing it survive;
furthermore, the effects of their individual
contributions are felt to be meaningful and
important.
This is just the sort of situation we see in
democratic Athens, Professor Ober argues. Once
democracy was established, the Athenians developed
a series of rules and norms that gave everyone a
stake in seeing dignity sustained. By punishing
free riders and offering rewards to zealous
defenders of dignity, the Athenians were able to
keep their scheme of civic dignity from falling
prey to the tragedy of the commons. Feasible scope
meant enforceability; collective, public, commonly
known rules provided incentives.
There is certainly an intuitive plausibility to
Professor Ober’s claim that more diffuse
responsibility creates a greater likelihood of
neglect and eventual disuse. Still, I would like
to press upon this point for a moment. I think
such a move is justified by the plausible
existence of an interlocutor, let’s call him or
her the “cosmopolitan,” who might subscribe to the
universal variety of human dignity and who might
find the arguments for a more circumscribed and
localized civic dignity unpersuasive. Let me play
devil’s advocate for a moment and voice this
cosmopolitan’s concerns. “The purported reason for
the success of civic dignity,” he or she might
say, “is feasibility: it is premised upon the
notion of a more restricted group in which
monitoring and rewarding are easier and more
likely to succeed. But how do we know what is too
broad and what is narrow enough? And what is there
in your account which prevents us from imagining a
world government in which each person is like the
member of one giant polis? — just as in the civic
dignity of ancient Athens, the ties between people
in such a community would be political without
being personal. And if indeed it turned out that
people in such a community failed to uphold their
scheme of civic dignity through irresponsibility,
couldn’t we chalk that up to their own moral
laziness? There need not be a “natural” level at
which people understandably become irresponsible —
they are blameworthy no matter what. After all,
since people are capable of being responsible at
one scale, as in democratic Athens, why not at
another? How can we know they’ll be irresponsible
till we’ve tried?”
That is one possible version of what a
cosmopolitan might say. They could push against
what they perceive as the arbitrariness of the
lines drawn. But they might also have legitimate
claims from a more normative angle. After all, in
today’s rapidly globalizing and increasingly
interconnected world, the nation-state is starting
to some to look more and more like a contingent
historical relic, an arbitrarily drawn product of
nationalism with little ethical pull on peoples’
own political conscience. Local, community
politics, sure, and cosmopolitan world politics,
perhaps hopefully, but do we have to continue to
give our energies to the nation-state? I would be
interested to hear Professor Ober’s thoughts about
how we might determine feasible and legitimate
scope. As I said before, I am very sympathetic to
the idea that smaller size might mean greater
practicability, but that prediction rests on an
assumption about how we think human beings will
act rather than on how they could act given the
right circumstances. Might world government still
be a desirable and achievable goal? What if we are
reaching the age of Zeno of Citium rather than
Demosthenes of Athens?
Let me turn now to Professor Monoson’s paper on
the reception of Socrates in mid-twentieth century
America. She has meticulously researched these
various works of fiction, theater, and television,
and provides a vivid picture of the political
climate at the time and of the ways in which
artists and intellectuals found the figure of
Socrates a productive one for exploring the
problems of civil rights, free speech, the
toleration of dissent, and, in what is definitely
a more contemporary issue, pluralism against both
Stalinism and McCarthyism. The first thing I
thought after finishing this paper was, how do I
learn more?, and then, did this phenomenon of
appropriating Socrates extend to other countries
and other political regimes and ideologies? That
would be truly fascinating to know and to compare
with the American examples given in the paper.
I would like to focus, however, on another
question, this one based on the title of the
paper: “The Making of a Democratic Symbol.” What
comes out strongly in all of the cases surveyed by
Professor Monoson is the use, and I would argue
the rehabilitation, of Socrates as a specifically
democratic icon. The dissenting,
deconstructing, and, let’s not kid ourselves,
rather annoying figure of Plato’s dialogues
becomes, in a sense, a seal of quality in each
case for the artist’s own political views. Socrates is made the classical archetype, the
legitimating force, the trump card, as it were,
for the values and ideologies of the writer, who
in some cases seems uncomfortably close to being
the actual hero of the story, for whom Socrates is
the historical stand-in. Perhaps we should not
begrudge the artists too much for graspi ng at what
cultural capital they could in the fight against
some very serious, quite high-stakes contemporary
political problems. But if I may, I would like to
take Professor Monoson’s paper as an invitation to
think about our possible uses of Socrates today —
because my problem with the depiction of Socrates
in the works she describes is a matter of both
historical accuracy and ethical reflection.
First, I think we ought to spend more time in the
public sphere debating the complex relationship
between the historical Socrates and ancient
Athenian democracy. There is too often an easy
conflation of Socrates with all we hold dear in
our modern tolerant liberal republics, whereas I
would argue against any neat system where
“Socrates + democracy + free speech” conveniently
all hang together. Partly this can be overcome by
extending our view of Socrates beyond the portrait
derived from Plato and investigating his early
reception in Athenian cultural memory. It’s
understandable that we have traditionally relied
on Plato to get at the “true Socrates,” not least
because Plato is, in my opinion at least, one of
the greatest writers, not only in ancient Greek
but in any language. But for the sake of
reconstructing the social image of Socrates
outside of Platonic philosophical circles, I think
we should look for representations of Socrates not
only in Xenophon and in Aristophanes, but also in
the fragments of Old Comedy, where Socrates is
mocked, a la Aristophanes’ Clouds, on more than
one occasion; in a speech, albeit a fragmentary
one, of Lysias, where a pupil of Socrates is
prosecuted; in the oratory of Aeschines half a
century later, where the orator can casually toss
out a comment about Socrates being a sophist who
taught members of the Thirty Tyrants; and even in
the unreliable biographical tidbits found in later
compilers like Athenaeus and Diogenes Laertius,
whose stories, sometimes moralizing and sometimes
scandalous, nevertheless might contain some
reflection of the early memories of Socrates in
fourth century Athens. This would productively
complicate our picture of the “last days of
Socrates” as presented by Plato and as brought to
visual life, perhaps too credulously, by Walter
Cronkite and the crew of CBS’s
You Are There . (And I’m relying on
Professor Monoson’s description here because I
haven’t yet seen the film.) While I cannot go into
detail about all these sources here, I will say
that I think that they give us a picture of
Socrates as a person constantly at odds with his
city’s political mainstream, constantly jostling
with Athenian democracy in skeptical and
borderline pernicious ways. Even Plato gives us
hints of this in his dialogues, as when Socrates
states in the
Gorgias
that he is the only one to truly do politics in
Athens, a claim that would surely not have gone
uncontested by the average Athenian democrat. We
also learn from the
Apology that Socrates stayed in the city
during the brief regime of the Thirty, unlike his
friend Chaerephon, who went into exile and
returned with the demos.
Now, I want to be clear: I am not saying that
Socrates was guilty of the charges brought against
him, or that his views were totally incompatible
with democracy. Instead I wish to emphasize that
there is certainly enough evidence to question his
credentials as a specifically democratic icon. But
this also points to potential differences between
the democracy of Athens and our democratic regimes
today. If Socrates was intolerable in Athens but
tolerable today, does that simply mean that the
Athenians made a temporary mistake, or could it be
that their political ideology was in some ways
fundamentally different from ours now? This is
surely worth exploring.
That is a very brief summary of the case for more
historical exactitude in dealing with Socrates. I’d like to conclude with the ethical case. Pro fessor Monoson is right to point out in several
places in her paper that a Socrates devoid of the
unsettling, provocative, gadfly spirit is a very
sorry Socrates indeed. And it is just this
Socrates, the unnerving one, that
we
need more of, not to win our own political battles
with, as some of the Cold War-era artists did, but
to turn upon ourselves in critical
self-reflection. Socrates has given us a
dialectical tool, called the
elenchus , that we can
use to probe our everyday assumptions and
inherited traditions. It is this tool that allows
the logoi of Socrates to go on, even after his
death, as Professor Gregory Nagy suggested
yesterday. Socrates predicted at the time of his
death sentence in Plato’s Apology that this skill
of his would live on after him, and that the
Athenians would find that they could not escape
Socrates’ questioning after all, thanks to those
inspired by him who would carry on his mission. We
can thus all be Socrates’ disciples, but first and
foremost we should train this elenchus on
ourselves. After all it is this willingness to
turn the scalpel on oneself and dissect one’s own
opinions, so to speak, that caused the philosopher
Nietzsche to so admire Socrates in the end.
Therefore we should unsettle ourselves in
bringing Socrates back to life. While we are
engaged this week in a dialogue between ancient
and modern and beyond, and while we may feel the
need to ask in what ways we have fallen short of
the ancients and in what ways we have surpassed
them, the role of Socrates in all this, I think,
is to say to us: “I don’t care about history,
about times or places. My question is, has either
of you done what is
right , and how do
you know?” (Coincidentally, this is one of the
main points of Professor Ober’s paper, to ask an
ethical question — that is, how can one live well,
in dignified ways, and how have different people
accomplished this?) This is perhaps not a question
we typically ask ourselves, but it is very much
worth asking, even if, as in conversation with
Socrates, we end up unsure of ourselves, in
aporia . We
can and
should continue
to engage with Socrates in this way, even if it is
not easy and even if Socrates might not always
tell us what we want to hear. Yesterday Professor
Richard Hunter gave us the evocative image of the
Delphic Oracle telling Zeno of Citium (there he is
again!) to “sleep with the dead.” We should try to
sleep with Socrates, but as we know from
Alcibiades’ own story in the
Symposium of his attempt to seduce
Socrates, our advances may be resisted. But
perhaps, now as then, our souls will be better for
it. Thank you.